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Too much paranoia?

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sheffielduk - 31/1/03 at 02:56

I don't think there is any need at all for worry if it's a LAN or an Intranet not connected to Intenet backbones (in almost all cases). I hear people getting too paranoid about the security issue. Large corporations, institutions and businesses do have the means to invest in solid and robust security measures. Small guys like us or people in their own home network should not worry at all.
Hackers believe it or not do have a code of conduct, they have one of the three reasons for their wrong doing. The fist one is respectability among their fellows and peers for having gone somewhere where it was hard to go or break into. Surely breaking into Mr & Mrs average and their 2.4 children's home network is not going to get them that, they will be a laughing stock. The second one is commercial or financial gain either for themselves or whoever sponsors them, here again, their moral conduct is at stake (it is like theft from a vulnerable old great Grand Ma to them) if they hacked into a small guy's systems for the that purpose. The third one, which is in my view the most lethal and dangerous of the three, warfare, terror and economic sabotage. In the current political and International climate, one may forgive the paranoia, still for ordinary people, there is no ground for fear.
I know most of us hate the idea or the thought of exposure, and to be safe standard measures should be implemented. Backing up sensitive data is a good idea, firewalling the whole network when there is nothing to loose is a waste of money. Sensitive data back ups should be kept apart and away from the network in a physical back up storage. Remember also some amateur hackers are opportunists, they may hack into large sites or servers as a result of discovering an open window or an open door.


twpsyn - 23/6/03 at 00:22

OK, this has been a long time coming, I appologise for not reading often enough.

Basically, the views presented here by sheffielduk are the largest pile of steaming excrement I have ever read.
Any network, no matter how small should be secured, even small home networks. Almost all home networks will have an internet connection, face it, if you can afford and have the need for a wireless segment, you'll likely have a net connection, and probably a good one.
Now while you might not have any data on your network worth accessing, and nothing worth hacking, hackers who wish to access other larger networks need a platform from where to launch their attempt. If they are able to find a nice unsecured wireless network by driving around a residential area they will use it, either straight away, or compromise it for later use.
Take note of this, its important. If your connection is used for illegal activity which results in criminal proceedings, unless you are able to prove who did it, you will be held responsible.
That I believe is one of the most compelling reason to secure your wireless network, but there are many of other reasons, packet sniffing, personal privacy, and a sense of what is yours are just a few.
After all, do you leave your front door unlocked when you go out because you are an average family and there are companies with much more to be stolen?


dusky - 23/6/03 at 00:59

quote:
if it's a LAN or an Intranet not connected to Intenet backbones

The guy had made it clear (only non-connected networks should not worry) from what I understand, he means wired LANs de-connected from the internet, but you've got a point there, no chances should be left especially when connected using a Wi-Fi/Wireless network, I'd agree with you.


rags - 7/4/04 at 18:16

look... you guys are confusing terminology... crackers are people who are malicious.. hackers are people in search of information not normally provided to the public.

if john q publics home network is open, internet connection or not, hackers might try and find info from their home computers. even little 'newbies' because who know what valuable information may be on a home network.. once again.. internet access or not.
dont assume that hackers/crackers are going to follow a code of ethics, because there are no ethics. if there is information to be found by scanning a home network, then there will always be someone interested in that information.


secure your networks, someone will want your information.


rags - 7/4/04 at 18:19

p.s. most shopping sites online store ip addresses with any online purchases.
if you have your credit card info on your computer... and an open wireless network, people can order stuff to wherever from your ip address..... thus, making it look more like you ordered it, not them.
i know this doesnt follow the non internet connected rule, but all the same.....
or, if i didnt like you... id just format all the computers on the network from my car/bike parked outside your house.


BobIsMyName - 26/7/06 at 20:38

In addition to your posts, you need a GOOD security, MAC filtering, IP RANGE and WEP encryption is way pass deadline, in fact, any less then decent person can come around and go through your internet connection, reading up credit cards is alot more complicated and connecting directly to your computer using it has a proxy also, but connecting to your internet is easily done, and has you all know, some sites directly charge your internet connection, if you need an example on how to test your WEP security or see a video that will convince you, simply go to:

http://www.tuto-fr.com/en/tutorial/tutorial-crack-wep-airc rack.php


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